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07-08 03:44 PM
http://www.cnbc.com/id/19638235/site/14081545/page/2/
Interview Transcript: Condoleezza Rice
Topics:Iran | Iraq War | Iraq | China | Politics & GovernmentBy CNBC.com | 06 Jul 2007 | 05:47 PM ET Font size:
Dr. RICE: I think there's a reason for that, Maria, and of course, it has to do with the great military power of the United States, the great economic power of the United States, an economy that is the envy of every economy in the world. But it also has to do with the American example. People look to America and they see a place that is multiethnic in character, where you can be a German-American from a couple of--a century ago, or you can be Mexican-American, you can be African-American and you're still American. And that multiethnic character of America is very attractive to people. They also see a place where you get ahead, not because of where you came from, because--but because of where you want to go. And an educational system that is open and where people achieve on merit. There is much that attracts the world to America. Even if they don't like American policies, this is the place that people want to send their kids to school, this is the place that people still want to come and find their futures. America's still a very, very powerful symbol and a very important place of leadership for the world.
BARTIROMO: And yet some people say protectionism continues to seep in. The Dubai Ports deal could not go through, Unocal was unable to get acquired by CNOOC, there is difficulty in obtaining visa. How can we change that perception?
Dr. RICE: Well, it is absolutely the case that we have to defend what has made us great, and that is to be a place that is open to people from around the world. We've worked very hard here at the State Department, for instance, to improve the ability for students to get visas to the United States.
There's no doubt that after September 11th, there was a downturn in the number of foreign students coming to the United States. It was harder to get here if you were a business traveler. We still have work to do but I think we're making improvements, working with the tourism industry, working with business, to try to make sure that people who are trying to come to the United States can come to the United States. We need to fight protectionism with everything that we have because when there's a level playing field and when you have open markets and when free trade is flourishing, American workers, American farmers, Americans are going to benefit. When the international economy is growing as a whole, I will put my bets on American industry, American workers, American farmers, to get more than their fair share of that open market. But if we become protectionist and we become closed, then we are going to really undermine our own economic strength.
It's true that we have to do more to help prepare Americans for the jobs that are available. I've been, myself, very concerned about education, both at the primary and secondary levels, and keeping our universities open to the widest variety of people. I'm concerned about math-science education in the United States. Too few engineers being trained here. I come, Maria, you know, now from the Silicon Valley, a place that one in every 10 patents in the country has come out of--in the world has come out of. We have to make sure that we are keeping and strengthening our great advantages. But if we close ourselves off, we're all going to suffer.
BARTIROMO: And Europe is becoming more formidable. You've got China and India strengthening, we've got new leadership throughout Europe. Tell me how the new political face of Europe will impact American business.
Dr. RICE: Well, the political face of Europe is one that has said very clearly that it wants cooperation and friendship with the United States. I was just in France and met with President Sarkozy. He made very clear that he believes in Franco-American cooperation. We have excellent relations with Chancellor Merkel in Germany, and of course, we ill have great relations with Great Britain. Those countries that are the strongest countries in Europe, together with our friends in--that have just come to Europe, Poland, the Czech Republic, the countries of East Central Europe, I think, make for a very favorable environment politically for the United States, because there we have very good partners who share our values, who are helping us to carry some of the burdens of international concerns, international problems. And I feel very good about our future with Europe.
BARTIROMO: Let me ask you a question on immigration. Lawyers are planning a class action suit right now over the State Department's offer of visas to highly skilled immigrants last month, even though the Department of Citizenship said there were no more visas available. What happened?
Dr. RICE: Well, this was a case in which for--at a certain point in time, we'd not filled the entire quota for these special immigrant visas. And made an announcement of that. But when they were filled, we had to cut it off at that point. There's a ceiling that's set every year and when that ceiling was reached, then we couldn't issue the visas any longer. But we're prepared to talk to people about what happened here. If there were problems in communication then those should be looked at. But it's pretty simple. We operate under a particular ceiling, and when that ceiling is filled, then we have to--we have to live within it.
BARTIROMO: And unfortunately, aren't these the exact type of people, very highly skilled, some physicians, that America wants to attract?
Dr. RICE: Well, it goes back to the point that I--that I made. A lot of people want to come to the United States. People will skills want to come to the United States. I'm a very big believer in having those people come to the United States, because the truth of the matter is, we don't, ourselves, produce enough of that skilled labor. We need to work on the educational front to make sure that we are producing us the numbers of engineers and the numbers of software people and the numbers of physicians that we need.
Dr. RICE: But we need immigration as well. The ceilings have been set.
They are not ceilings that we set, they're set in the--they're set by statute, and I know that there are many who would like to see them raised, but that's a--that's a matter for the administration and Congress.
Interview Transcript: Condoleezza Rice
Topics:Iran | Iraq War | Iraq | China | Politics & GovernmentBy CNBC.com | 06 Jul 2007 | 05:47 PM ET Font size:
Dr. RICE: I think there's a reason for that, Maria, and of course, it has to do with the great military power of the United States, the great economic power of the United States, an economy that is the envy of every economy in the world. But it also has to do with the American example. People look to America and they see a place that is multiethnic in character, where you can be a German-American from a couple of--a century ago, or you can be Mexican-American, you can be African-American and you're still American. And that multiethnic character of America is very attractive to people. They also see a place where you get ahead, not because of where you came from, because--but because of where you want to go. And an educational system that is open and where people achieve on merit. There is much that attracts the world to America. Even if they don't like American policies, this is the place that people want to send their kids to school, this is the place that people still want to come and find their futures. America's still a very, very powerful symbol and a very important place of leadership for the world.
BARTIROMO: And yet some people say protectionism continues to seep in. The Dubai Ports deal could not go through, Unocal was unable to get acquired by CNOOC, there is difficulty in obtaining visa. How can we change that perception?
Dr. RICE: Well, it is absolutely the case that we have to defend what has made us great, and that is to be a place that is open to people from around the world. We've worked very hard here at the State Department, for instance, to improve the ability for students to get visas to the United States.
There's no doubt that after September 11th, there was a downturn in the number of foreign students coming to the United States. It was harder to get here if you were a business traveler. We still have work to do but I think we're making improvements, working with the tourism industry, working with business, to try to make sure that people who are trying to come to the United States can come to the United States. We need to fight protectionism with everything that we have because when there's a level playing field and when you have open markets and when free trade is flourishing, American workers, American farmers, Americans are going to benefit. When the international economy is growing as a whole, I will put my bets on American industry, American workers, American farmers, to get more than their fair share of that open market. But if we become protectionist and we become closed, then we are going to really undermine our own economic strength.
It's true that we have to do more to help prepare Americans for the jobs that are available. I've been, myself, very concerned about education, both at the primary and secondary levels, and keeping our universities open to the widest variety of people. I'm concerned about math-science education in the United States. Too few engineers being trained here. I come, Maria, you know, now from the Silicon Valley, a place that one in every 10 patents in the country has come out of--in the world has come out of. We have to make sure that we are keeping and strengthening our great advantages. But if we close ourselves off, we're all going to suffer.
BARTIROMO: And Europe is becoming more formidable. You've got China and India strengthening, we've got new leadership throughout Europe. Tell me how the new political face of Europe will impact American business.
Dr. RICE: Well, the political face of Europe is one that has said very clearly that it wants cooperation and friendship with the United States. I was just in France and met with President Sarkozy. He made very clear that he believes in Franco-American cooperation. We have excellent relations with Chancellor Merkel in Germany, and of course, we ill have great relations with Great Britain. Those countries that are the strongest countries in Europe, together with our friends in--that have just come to Europe, Poland, the Czech Republic, the countries of East Central Europe, I think, make for a very favorable environment politically for the United States, because there we have very good partners who share our values, who are helping us to carry some of the burdens of international concerns, international problems. And I feel very good about our future with Europe.
BARTIROMO: Let me ask you a question on immigration. Lawyers are planning a class action suit right now over the State Department's offer of visas to highly skilled immigrants last month, even though the Department of Citizenship said there were no more visas available. What happened?
Dr. RICE: Well, this was a case in which for--at a certain point in time, we'd not filled the entire quota for these special immigrant visas. And made an announcement of that. But when they were filled, we had to cut it off at that point. There's a ceiling that's set every year and when that ceiling was reached, then we couldn't issue the visas any longer. But we're prepared to talk to people about what happened here. If there were problems in communication then those should be looked at. But it's pretty simple. We operate under a particular ceiling, and when that ceiling is filled, then we have to--we have to live within it.
BARTIROMO: And unfortunately, aren't these the exact type of people, very highly skilled, some physicians, that America wants to attract?
Dr. RICE: Well, it goes back to the point that I--that I made. A lot of people want to come to the United States. People will skills want to come to the United States. I'm a very big believer in having those people come to the United States, because the truth of the matter is, we don't, ourselves, produce enough of that skilled labor. We need to work on the educational front to make sure that we are producing us the numbers of engineers and the numbers of software people and the numbers of physicians that we need.
Dr. RICE: But we need immigration as well. The ceilings have been set.
They are not ceilings that we set, they're set in the--they're set by statute, and I know that there are many who would like to see them raised, but that's a--that's a matter for the administration and Congress.
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neeidd
10-15 11:42 PM
Not sure what they do in the secondary inspection.. In my case they asked no questions at all.. Just asked me to sit and wait while they entered / checked something in their system. I was in and out within 20 mnts.
Thanks for your response
Thanks for your response
itsokgc
08-10 05:14 PM
I am in the same boat. However, I have issue with my I-140, where there is typo in the Priority Date.
I have infopass appointment tomorrow. Hope dates will not retrogress behind Feb 2006.
I have infopass appointment tomorrow. Hope dates will not retrogress behind Feb 2006.
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xyz2005
06-21 01:45 AM
Hi Gurus,
My labor was approved in July'07 and I-140/485 were applied under EB2 category in Aug'07.
My qualification : Master of Engineering in Civil Engineering and B.Tech in Civil Engineering.
I got the below RFE from CIS :
The submitted ETA 9089 states the preferred position of Computer systems analyst requires a Masters degree in Engineering or related field.
Please submit a new educational evaluation based solely on the beneficiary's education when compared to a degree related to the computer indstry.
An acceptable evaluation must:
1) Consider formal education only, not practical training experience
2) did the applicant complete the U.S equivalant of high school before entering college
3) Provide detailed explanation of material evaluated
4) briefly state the qualifications and experience of the evaluator providing the opinion
The education evaluation I have submitted with I-140 includes my work experience. Please suggest me your ideas/experiences in getting the best education evaluation for my I-140 approval.
Thanks,
Sekhar
I think they are probing link of your Civil Engineering and Computer Analyst job. They are looking for specific computer oriented language courses that show you have formal education in that and that should corraborate your work experience letters. Its well known that getting EB2 for computer analyst etc oriented jobs is getting difficult. They are now questioning more and more as to why analyst oriented jobs should require Masters and #2 they are looking for links between Civil Engineering education and Computer oriented job that you are trying for.!!!
All the best.
Best Regards
My labor was approved in July'07 and I-140/485 were applied under EB2 category in Aug'07.
My qualification : Master of Engineering in Civil Engineering and B.Tech in Civil Engineering.
I got the below RFE from CIS :
The submitted ETA 9089 states the preferred position of Computer systems analyst requires a Masters degree in Engineering or related field.
Please submit a new educational evaluation based solely on the beneficiary's education when compared to a degree related to the computer indstry.
An acceptable evaluation must:
1) Consider formal education only, not practical training experience
2) did the applicant complete the U.S equivalant of high school before entering college
3) Provide detailed explanation of material evaluated
4) briefly state the qualifications and experience of the evaluator providing the opinion
The education evaluation I have submitted with I-140 includes my work experience. Please suggest me your ideas/experiences in getting the best education evaluation for my I-140 approval.
Thanks,
Sekhar
I think they are probing link of your Civil Engineering and Computer Analyst job. They are looking for specific computer oriented language courses that show you have formal education in that and that should corraborate your work experience letters. Its well known that getting EB2 for computer analyst etc oriented jobs is getting difficult. They are now questioning more and more as to why analyst oriented jobs should require Masters and #2 they are looking for links between Civil Engineering education and Computer oriented job that you are trying for.!!!
All the best.
Best Regards
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nashdel
04-06 11:26 PM
I went to Delhi recently for emergency appointment. The person who replied to my email (within 12 hours) told me to call next morning.
He gave me option for next day and told me to bring demand draft rather than their receipt for HDFC bank (lady at the counter did ask me about it though).
You should complete the online application as per their recommendations on website. It is very important. They would avoid data entry by you doing so.
Counter Lady put a blue sticker on my passport just like old times and asked me to collect my passport from embassy counter itself.
After usual long wait, I was interviewed and even though I did not have some of the documents she asked, she did not create any problems.
However, she said since my application is not cleared in PIMS, she is helpless in issuing visa. She gave me pink slip with ' petition not in PIMS' and emergency appointment written over it.
She asked me to check status on line at NEw delhi embassy website.
Anyway, it took them 2 weeks to clear PIMS and I had to postpone my flight 2 times. Emails to them is useless. they would not reply at Delhi. Phone is answered between 2-3 PM and I have to constantly redial many many times before some one will pick up.
I asked for them to return my passport many times so that I can return on AP but they would not do that. (could have been risky long term as my I 140 is not cleared yet). My h1b attorney`s paralegal did advice me to come back on AP if I am at risk of loosing my job. She said usually going back to H1b is very simple process even after you enter on AP.
Anyway, If you have AP, think twice if your employer is not willing to wait longer than necessary.
By the way my information was never updated on website even after I got the visa. My wife was calling DOS in US and they were very helpful in telling the status of PIMS.
Hopefully that helps you in your difficult times.
He gave me option for next day and told me to bring demand draft rather than their receipt for HDFC bank (lady at the counter did ask me about it though).
You should complete the online application as per their recommendations on website. It is very important. They would avoid data entry by you doing so.
Counter Lady put a blue sticker on my passport just like old times and asked me to collect my passport from embassy counter itself.
After usual long wait, I was interviewed and even though I did not have some of the documents she asked, she did not create any problems.
However, she said since my application is not cleared in PIMS, she is helpless in issuing visa. She gave me pink slip with ' petition not in PIMS' and emergency appointment written over it.
She asked me to check status on line at NEw delhi embassy website.
Anyway, it took them 2 weeks to clear PIMS and I had to postpone my flight 2 times. Emails to them is useless. they would not reply at Delhi. Phone is answered between 2-3 PM and I have to constantly redial many many times before some one will pick up.
I asked for them to return my passport many times so that I can return on AP but they would not do that. (could have been risky long term as my I 140 is not cleared yet). My h1b attorney`s paralegal did advice me to come back on AP if I am at risk of loosing my job. She said usually going back to H1b is very simple process even after you enter on AP.
Anyway, If you have AP, think twice if your employer is not willing to wait longer than necessary.
By the way my information was never updated on website even after I got the visa. My wife was calling DOS in US and they were very helpful in telling the status of PIMS.
Hopefully that helps you in your difficult times.
Waitnwait
02-23 07:13 PM
Do you have to refile 485? i am assuming you have already filed as you said you have EAD. i thought interfiling can be done by just sending a letter to USCIS and there is no need to refile 485.
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prioritydate
12-18 03:51 PM
Since we saw some members posting that their i-140 got denied, do they usually review the approved i-140 at i-485 stage? :confused:
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number30
03-12 07:02 AM
You are right. I just confirmed also with ICICI(my bank) and they do not send 1099. Damn.
So what should I do now. Do I report the interest income from prior years (its very small.... less than $200/year) and file TD F 90-22.1 form this year.
How big a issue is this. Should I be very scared?
Do not worry not abig deal. Just enter the amounts in $. This year Citi has used Rs 46 per $. Even I did not do it for first four years.
So what should I do now. Do I report the interest income from prior years (its very small.... less than $200/year) and file TD F 90-22.1 form this year.
How big a issue is this. Should I be very scared?
Do not worry not abig deal. Just enter the amounts in $. This year Citi has used Rs 46 per $. Even I did not do it for first four years.
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alterego
01-03 12:28 AM
Pending AOS or 485 is a type of legal status. It also allows you to apply for additional work and travel privileges as long as the underlying 485 remains pending. If you choose not to avail yourself of those benefits that that is up to you. You would end up in trouble only if you violate that by then working or travelling (absent the USCIS permission through EAD or AP). As long as you just sit there and especially if you are a derivative beneficiary, there is no problem.
That said, many people choose to get EAD/AP in hand in case an employment opportunity or an emergency need for travel comes up. Remember an EAD/AP application may take up to 3mths to get approved.
That said, many people choose to get EAD/AP in hand in case an employment opportunity or an emergency need for travel comes up. Remember an EAD/AP application may take up to 3mths to get approved.
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chi_shark
10-06 05:23 PM
i am going to do almost exactly what you are thinking in a matter of few days. i spoke to two lawyers. essentially, ac21 allows this and there is nothing that you have to really do. Of course, i am assuming that you are moving into a job that has the similar job duties as specified in your labor application. what you need to do is make 100% sure that you have documentation to prove this job duties similarity. if you are going to get an SOW from your client, make sure that the SOW is similar to your labor. if you can, do get a letter from your client (where you will do your actual work) stating your job responsibilities, work content etc. you will also need to document/prove actual existence of your business by showing your tax transactions, invoices/receipts etc. also, make sure that you are spending 40 hours (or whatever is the equivalent of a full time job) doing your labor certified job... all this will be required only if USCIS sends you an RFE or calls you for an interview.
wish you luck
I am working for a Fortune 500 company on H1 visa. I am switching to a startup and will now be using my EAD( GC status: I-485 with more than 180 days). I have the following questions.
1. Can I join as an individual contractor by myself directly with the company without going thru a 3rd party vendor?
2. I am offered a temporary contract position at an hourly rate every 15 days without deducting any taxes. I will have to pay my taxes at the end of the year by myself using the form sent by the employer. Does anyone have any such experience?
3. What formalities do I need to complete with the USCIS regarding this change in my status? Will it affect my green card process in any way?
I will really appreciate your help.
Thanks for the support.
wish you luck
I am working for a Fortune 500 company on H1 visa. I am switching to a startup and will now be using my EAD( GC status: I-485 with more than 180 days). I have the following questions.
1. Can I join as an individual contractor by myself directly with the company without going thru a 3rd party vendor?
2. I am offered a temporary contract position at an hourly rate every 15 days without deducting any taxes. I will have to pay my taxes at the end of the year by myself using the form sent by the employer. Does anyone have any such experience?
3. What formalities do I need to complete with the USCIS regarding this change in my status? Will it affect my green card process in any way?
I will really appreciate your help.
Thanks for the support.
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upuaut
09-19 01:15 AM
Painter 7 like Painter 6 should have come with a manual. The one I got with 6.0 is very extensive and well formated to teaching the programs finer aspects.
if you bought it and didn't get a manual.. I'd complain. If you didn't buy it.. you'll probebly have to slug through it and learn as you discover stuff. Painter itself is not really a well documented programs as these things go. I've never seen a book that details it yet.
I will be stopping by B&N in the next couple of days. I'll be sure to take a look on the shelf to see if there is anything around that might help you out.
Sorry I can't be of more help. I do know what you mean about it being an extensive program. 6.0 has so many features I can rarely keep track of them all. I'm usually looking things up to see how I can do them.
if you bought it and didn't get a manual.. I'd complain. If you didn't buy it.. you'll probebly have to slug through it and learn as you discover stuff. Painter itself is not really a well documented programs as these things go. I've never seen a book that details it yet.
I will be stopping by B&N in the next couple of days. I'll be sure to take a look on the shelf to see if there is anything around that might help you out.
Sorry I can't be of more help. I do know what you mean about it being an extensive program. 6.0 has so many features I can rarely keep track of them all. I'm usually looking things up to see how I can do them.
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msyedy
01-24 11:09 AM
Yes your crook attorney is partially right. Because once your I-140 gets approved, then you are eligible for 3 yr extension and not 1 yr extension. No attorney like his/her clients get 3 yrs extension because they will lose their attorney fee for the next two years.
Just ask your lier to apply for I-140. If he refuses to do that, ask him why?
Change your attorney if you are paying for your GC. If company is paying then talk to the companies HR or who ever, lawyers will work on what the company says.
Forget about the lawyer, It is the company issue here if they are paying for your GC.
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Just ask your lier to apply for I-140. If he refuses to do that, ask him why?
Change your attorney if you are paying for your GC. If company is paying then talk to the companies HR or who ever, lawyers will work on what the company says.
Forget about the lawyer, It is the company issue here if they are paying for your GC.
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saketkapur
05-07 12:43 PM
Its not mandatory.....you can file it anytime........its totally up to you and your immigration lawyer depending on your situation.
You will still need to meet the requirements of wage and same or similar job criteria whenever(if) you decide to file it or get an RFE.
You will still need to meet the requirements of wage and same or similar job criteria whenever(if) you decide to file it or get an RFE.
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keith_in_us
04-11 11:10 PM
In response to a previous question, I am from Hong Kong SAR, and I have never applied for labor cert. I have been on H1B visa my entire time.
Thanks!
Keith
Thanks!
Keith
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The7zen
08-22 06:54 PM
Hi,
This is Dean from Maple Grove, new member, and trying to get access to the MN IV Chapter to get further details regarding the rally...and still waiting....
Is this Google Group active ?
Thanks
7Zen
This is Dean from Maple Grove, new member, and trying to get access to the MN IV Chapter to get further details regarding the rally...and still waiting....
Is this Google Group active ?
Thanks
7Zen
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solaris27
08-02 02:07 PM
write letters to congressman and fill form for ombudsman.
You should get ur GC.
You should get ur GC.
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sayonara
09-11 05:17 PM
Does your Attorney says that counter will start from Aug 28, 2007 ?
Did he say anything about Aug 28, 2007 falling out of Aug 17, 2007 limit date for filing AOS and can that cause any issues?
I am still waiting for an answer from my Attorney. Will post the details here as soon as I hear anything from them.
Nope...And he is one of those who stops answering if there are too many questions...maybe i will get these answers next week :rolleyes:
Did he say anything about Aug 28, 2007 falling out of Aug 17, 2007 limit date for filing AOS and can that cause any issues?
I am still waiting for an answer from my Attorney. Will post the details here as soon as I hear anything from them.
Nope...And he is one of those who stops answering if there are too many questions...maybe i will get these answers next week :rolleyes:
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mach1343
04-29 11:57 PM
Hi,
Anybody recently filed PIO through Travisa at DC embassy, please share your experience. I sent the application for my 1 and a half month daughter who is born here, and planning to travel to India in June. I would like to know how long does it take if the documentation is correct and is there any tracking system to know the status.
No issues I got it in 10 days...tracking you would get emails about the approval.
Anybody recently filed PIO through Travisa at DC embassy, please share your experience. I sent the application for my 1 and a half month daughter who is born here, and planning to travel to India in June. I would like to know how long does it take if the documentation is correct and is there any tracking system to know the status.
No issues I got it in 10 days...tracking you would get emails about the approval.
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GCPagla
02-12 11:00 AM
Hi,
My I 485 was filed on 07/12/2007 in EB2. My priority date in Feb26 2007.
I am working on EAD now, which is valid through 07/06/2012.
I have got a job offer from one of the top fortune 500 company recently. They are offering the job with a role of "Lead Technical Architect".
Following are the details from my labor:
Job Title: Programmer/ Analyst/Systems, Software/Engineer/Developer, or Related to IT
Reponsibility:
develop, create and modify general computer application software. Analysis user needs and design, develop software solutions. Design, develop, analyse and implement software and end user product. Coordinate various account projects with IT consultants; nurture close relationship with the major account customers by providing quality technical support and apply principles of computer science, engineering and mathematical analysis.
From the generic nature of the role resonsibility, I feel that the "Lead technical Architect" role will not be a misfit with the requirement of "Similar resposibility".
Can you kindly let me know if you see any violation of the EAD porting requirement in terms of similar responsibilities?
Thanks in advance.
My I 485 was filed on 07/12/2007 in EB2. My priority date in Feb26 2007.
I am working on EAD now, which is valid through 07/06/2012.
I have got a job offer from one of the top fortune 500 company recently. They are offering the job with a role of "Lead Technical Architect".
Following are the details from my labor:
Job Title: Programmer/ Analyst/Systems, Software/Engineer/Developer, or Related to IT
Reponsibility:
develop, create and modify general computer application software. Analysis user needs and design, develop software solutions. Design, develop, analyse and implement software and end user product. Coordinate various account projects with IT consultants; nurture close relationship with the major account customers by providing quality technical support and apply principles of computer science, engineering and mathematical analysis.
From the generic nature of the role resonsibility, I feel that the "Lead technical Architect" role will not be a misfit with the requirement of "Similar resposibility".
Can you kindly let me know if you see any violation of the EAD porting requirement in terms of similar responsibilities?
Thanks in advance.
kviswanathan
08-20 10:57 PM
still waiting
